Interview of Ken & Jasmyn Klarfeld, authors of "He Said, She Said"

Jasmyn Karfeld is the daughter. Ken Karfeld is thelife, or cause them to have a bad one.
father. Jasmyn was what society considered anJuanita: Parents and teenagers by design seem to
extreme case of an out of control teen. Now they talkhave challenges in communication. What do you feel is
about it. Welcome to Reader Views Jasmyn and Ken.the biggest challenge teenager's face in communicating
Juanita: You have written a very unique book thatwith their parents today?
gives a valuable insight into a growing problem that isJasmyn: A lot of times parents don't understand
probably affecting more families than one would think.where their teenagers are coming from, or how truly
Why were you inspired to co-author a book aboutimportant the social aspects and feeling of having
such a raw and personal account?some control over their lives is to teenagers. The
Ken: While reminiscing with Jasmyn it becameteenager will be worried about those things, and the
apparent there was a misunderstanding of eachparents are more worried about long term goals, such
others intentions and perceptions during her upbringing.as college and a successful job, so the parent will be
The degree of our separation on actual events wasconcentrated on those things, instead of addressing
intriguing where as our memories of the same eventsthe immediate.
were so different. We believed if we could articulateJuanita: In a situation of so much crisis and fear, how
this in a book we could help others in the samedoes a parent give unconditional love and acceptance
situation gain an understanding that could facilitatewhen they are witnessing their teen making
growth and healing.destructive choices?
Jasmyn: We thought it was interesting that whenKen: It's not easy. One of the things Jasmyn said kept
talking about various past situations, our perspectivesher from doing things that she knew were really
of what happened in any given situation were sowrong was that she never had a sense of
different. We thought that reading an account of adesperation. She knew she always had the option to
child's life from both her perspective and her parent'scome home to loving parents. As a parent, taking that
perspective would have been incredibly enlightening, soaway would have been devastating. Knowing that you
we decided to write it.are there for your child is a beacon for them.
Juanita: What was the first step in opening the lines ofJuanita: You have suggested that one of the big
communication between the two of you?influences to the downward spiral was that Jasmyn
Ken: I think even in our darkest times there remained awas very intelligent and wasn't challenged enough in
line of communication between us. Jasmyn coming toschool. How big of a problem do you feel this is today
us for help when she was at her worst could beand what can parents do to help?
considered a first stepKen: I think this has been a problem since the advent
Jasmyn: When I had children and became a parentof public schools. Parents need to get involved with all
myself, I was able to appreciate that position a lotaspects of their kids life. Finding an activity to stimulate
more, and was more open to communication andand motivate is the key to communication.
advice that came from my dad.Jasmyn: I think that is probably a big problem today
Juanita: What was the biggest differing perception youwith some kids, and I see it in my own daughter. So
realized throughout the process of writing this book?what I try to do with her is to give her things to channel
Ken: I don't think Jasmyn was aware of the turmoil shethat intelligence into- things like books, dance, and I'm
was creating. A recurring theme in the book is Jasmynthinking about getting her into drama as well.
saying "why do they care, it's my life." I think sheOtherwise, she will get bored and channel her energy
understands after reading the part authored by me theinto things that may not be good for her.
extent we actually did care.Juanita: You have been asked to speak at a court
Jasmyn: It was that my dads IDEA of what wouldmediation group regarding how parents and teens
motivate me was SOOO incredibly different than therelate. How have your unique viewpoints helped in this
things that ACTUALLY would have motivated me.process and have you any success stories to share?
Juanita: What advise would you give parents in similarKen: Timely question. Jasmyn is speaking next week
crisis?at a women's symposium at a correctional facility in
Ken: Create positive incentives for change. Find anSalem, Oregon. As I write this my wife is on the phone
outlet for your child to express themselves and bewith a reader that got in touch with us after reading
challenged. The best remedy is prevention.the book. We are giving her suggestions and support
Jasmyn: To really listen to their kids, figure out whatthrough a very similar situation to our past. We are
motivates and drives them, and then USE that toconsidering starting a support group as a result of the
encourage the behavior you want from them.emails and calls we are receiving
Juanita: What advise would you give teens in similarJasmyn: I think I have a very unique perspective in that
crisis?I am a parent, but am still young enough to remember
Ken: Advice is so easy to give but hard to take. Sitwhat it feels like to be a teen. The fact that my dad
down with your parents and be honest. Parents reallyand I are so close now makes us a success story.
do care as a rule. Let your parents know what yourJuanita: I would like to thank both of you for sharing
concerns are and try to understand your well being isyour thoughts today. With such a unique perspective
and always will be their paramount concern. It is yourand unflinching honesty, your book "He Said, She Said"
life but it is your parent's goal and greatest wish to helpwill definitely help many people. Do you have anything
you navigate the pitfalls that will keep you from havingelse you'd like to share with your readers?
a great future. Try to remember you are a teenagerKen: Yes, Parents can get a lot out of this book and
for only a very short time, and an adult for the rest ofthey will read it willingly. For teens, especially troubled
your life. Don't mortgage your future with bad decisionsteens, if asked to read this it may be looked at as just
that will stay with you forever. Your parents don'tanother lame thing mom or dad wants from them. I
have all the answers but they have been there.suggest picking a chapter that will have particular
Jasmyn: To make sure to communicate with yourrelevance to your child and making a deal with your
parents, and try to take an active role in your life, byteen to read just this one chapter. Then talk about
figuring out what you want, how to incorporate thatJasmyn's and Ken's experience in that chapter with
with what your parents want, and talk to them aboutyour teen. Questions like " Boy, Ken really blew it with
ways to do that. Come at it from a solution standpoint,Jasmyn there! Have I ever done anything that dumb?"
instead of a problem oriented one.Or " What do you think Jasmyn and Ken could have
Juanita: What were the catalyst and /or turning point indone differently to help instead of hurt there
your healing process?relationship?" This will open up those depleted avenues
Ken: That would have to be when Jasmyn actuallyof communication. Have the teen also come up with a
asked for help.few questions for the parents. Once your talking your
Jasmyn: When I realized that kids meant I now hadon your way!
something to lose. I could make sure they had a good